#1 Jul 17, 2008 3:37 pm

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[WIP] KISS me [On Hold]

First things first: this is a Mobile Me theme.

Another one?, you shall ask. The thing is the two themes currently being developed aren't just "another" theme, but a complete theme. I think this is unnecessary given how good Leopard can look only replacing buttons, scrollbars, etc. I have started to make such a theme, named KISS me: KISS for "Keep It Simple, Stupid" and me for Mobile Me, of course.

You can download ß3.5 here.

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#2 Jul 17, 2008 4:29 pm

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Re: [WIP] KISS me [On Hold]

What makes this one different than mine or Kevin's...

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#3 Jul 17, 2008 4:34 pm

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Re: [WIP] KISS me [On Hold]

Mac Intosh wrote:

What makes this one different than mine or Kevin's...

As I said, you both are trying to make a complete system replacement, that is, a completely new theme (based on the same resources, yes). I am trying to replace only a few parts of the default leopard theme.

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#4 Jul 17, 2008 4:34 pm

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Re: [WIP] KISS me [On Hold]

It's not like anyone can stop anyone else from making this, short of banning him, that would be stupid. tongue

Anyway, I like the look of this, I love the buttons. Keep it up. smile_thumbup

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#5 Jul 17, 2008 5:00 pm

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Re: [WIP] KISS me [On Hold]

Somone needs to just change the elements like the framework Eaglelouk is working on and nothing else.
smile_zipped
http://www.eagle-of-liberty.com/snowleopard/After.jpg

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#6 Jul 17, 2008 5:34 pm

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Re: [WIP] KISS me [On Hold]

appletoast wrote:

Somone needs to just change the elements like the framework Eaglelouk is working on and nothing else.
smile_zipped
http://www.eagle-of-liberty.com/snowleopard/After.jpg

AGREED.

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#7 Jul 17, 2008 6:02 pm

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jakesonaplane wrote:

appletoast wrote:

Somone needs to just change the elements like the framework Eaglelouk is working on and nothing else.
smile_zipped
http://www.eagle-of-liberty.com/snowleopard/After.jpg

AGREED.

+984615274318

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#8 Jul 17, 2008 6:10 pm

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I think that is what Rion is doing
Don't forget to change the traffic lights wink

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#9 Jul 17, 2008 7:35 pm

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Re: [WIP] KISS me [On Hold]

holymountain wrote:

jakesonaplane wrote:

appletoast wrote:

Somone needs to just change the elements like the framework Eaglelouk is working on and nothing else.
smile_zipped
http://www.eagle-of-liberty.com/snowleopard/After.jpg

AGREED.

+984615274318

Frameworks are application independent, so unless you wanna go mod every app's nib in your computer, and eventually fail to mod Finder, i suggest sticking to themes. smile_thumbup

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#10 Jul 17, 2008 7:42 pm

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Achill3s wrote:

holymountain wrote:

jakesonaplane wrote:

AGREED.

+984615274318

Frameworks are application independent, so unless you wanna go mod every app's nib in your computer, and eventually fail to mod Finder, i suggest sticking to themes. smile_thumbup

I meant a theme hmm
Just referring to that pic from another thread.

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#11 Jul 17, 2008 9:19 pm

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I like.

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#12 Jul 17, 2008 11:07 pm

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I like!!

Keep it simple wink

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#13 Jul 18, 2008 12:47 am

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susumu's scrollbars from "disingenuous" will go perfectly with the mobileme vibe.  they're light and super-awesome (tm).

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#14 Jul 18, 2008 1:01 am

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You know, I'd rather see someone try and retheme the website to match Leopard.

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#15 Jul 18, 2008 1:21 am

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Muchos gracias for this initiative - and pliiiiiiz keep it very simple and only use made-in-apple elements. NO susumu's scroll bar, just use the one from iTunes 7 if you want (or even better : aqua background and iTunes 7 scroller).

I'm not even sure you should try to mod safari's and finder's buttons. The color scheme of leopard gray and mobile me blueish don't feet together so well.

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#16 Jul 18, 2008 2:02 am

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Yea, I like the way this is going, but I'd rather just have a theme that changed the elements & scroll bars without touching anything else (including not touching the toolbar buttons in Finder, Safari etc.)

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#17 Jul 18, 2008 2:15 am

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organe d'honneur wrote:

....just use the one from iTunes 7 if you want (or even better : aqua background and iTunes 7 scroller).

strongly disagree sad  itunes 7 scrollbars don't fit the UI ... they don't even fit in itunes!!!!

organe d'honneur wrote:

I'm not even sure you should try to mod safari's and finder's buttons. The color scheme of leopard gray and mobile me blueish don't feet together so well.

strongly agree smile

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#18 Jul 18, 2008 2:26 am

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Ji wrote:

organe d'honneur wrote:

....just use the one from iTunes 7 if you want (or even better : aqua background and iTunes 7 scroller).

strongly disagree sad  itunes 7 scrollbars don't fit the UI ... they don't even fit in itunes!!!!

Yea, please don't use iTunes scroll bars, they look awful. Kevin Andersson made some really nice ones that suit MobileMe.

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#19 Jul 18, 2008 4:32 am

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yeah, just a screenshot of what susumu's look like in action with 10.5.  i'll stop pestering now tongue

http://tinyurl.com/5658qx

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#20 Jul 18, 2008 4:47 am

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If you are going to keep it simple, please don't theme the white plastic buttons. Several apps have been modded to get that look (think of the super awesome Transmit mod by Jonas) and it would be a real pita to have to get them right another time.

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#21 Jul 18, 2008 5:07 am

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Re: [WIP] KISS me [On Hold]

True.

So we would agree on that:
- aqua "push" buttons
- list headers
- push menus
- tabs, but in light/grey tone, not in the blueish one

Additionaly:
- maybe menu/selection gradients but beware of doing something too shiny
- scroll bars
And I got to say I find iTunes 7 scroll bars + aqua background to work very well:
http://img.skitch.com/20080718-1w64raj1wm442hec1jbueneipt.preview.jpg
Click for full size - Uploaded with plasq's Skitch

And nothing to do for:
- traffic lights
- toolbars
- window color

Is that all?

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#22 Jul 18, 2008 5:11 am

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Ji wrote:

yeah, just a screenshot of what susumu's look like in action with 10.5.  i'll stop pestering now tongue

http://tinyurl.com/5658qx

Yea, I like them. I like how unimposing they are.

I like the original ones Kevin Andersson did.
http://blog.kevinandersson.dk/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/scrolling.png
I like them both (Maybe prefer the lighter version?) But think they'd be better with a little less gloss (not too much though, or the darker version would start to look like the iTunes scroll bars hmm ).

For me the iTunes scroll bars don't suit the MobileMe buttons. They have gradients but no gloss at all.

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#23 Jul 18, 2008 5:46 am

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i don't think there will be any 'best' mobileme scrollbars.  since apple didn't provide any, why not just leave them alone and people just use graphite with mobileme.  that is, if you want a 'pure' mobileme theme.  personally, i can live with that over some distracting, unsightly crap that will foul up the theme.

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#24 Jul 18, 2008 6:08 am

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Re: [WIP] KISS me [On Hold]

Love it ! Release  the theme please (and don't change the window's bar in black, please !!!!)

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#25 Jul 18, 2008 8:36 am

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Re: [WIP] KISS me [On Hold]

Seeing your requests, I think the best way to go is to do 3 versions:

- Barebones (only replace what the aforementioned framework replaces)
- Basic (+scrollbars)
- Simple (+traffic lights and toolbar buttons, maybe menu highlights etc)

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